Questions and Answers #05

Not Having a Clue on Presence
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Brother Lee Vayle

Shall we pray.

Heavenly Father, we know that You are here, because science has proven it by the eye of the camera, what human eye could not catch, by vindication from a prophet, but how tragic we know it is that the majority of people do not know that.

How tragic to realize that a man whose office would one day bring the antichrist on the scene is perceptive enough to know that You are here in some form, because of what is going on, recognizing the Spirit of God by the very nature of that which is coming to pass.

And yet those people who claim so vociferously to be Your people even deny the very fact of the Headstone, the Capstone, the reality of Him Who has come down in this last hour to bring the Message, to raise the dead, to gather us for the Rapture, to become incarnate for the Wedding Supper, all those things they not only believe Lord, but they slander Your great Name and Your great work.

We pray for them Lord, that they may begin to understand that this is not something that is made up by a man or men, but it is something that is real, absolutely positively true, follows in every type, follows right down from Genesis to Revelation, and here we are at the end time.

Help us Lord to understand, and not only to understand the truth of Your Presence, but to so walk in obedience to You, knowing that You are present, that we might judge ourselves, and judge every work, and every step O God, which we’re not doing too well, we certainly admit that, but we saw a prophet who did.

May we follow in His footsteps, not just pray for the Spirit that he had, because we know that that may be reaching too far in the sense that we might attach something to that Spirit that does not belong to us, but we could believe Lord for that One Who gave him that character, helped him to work it out, by grace we pray that might be our lot tonight that we might stand here, not only fully perceptive in the sense of knowing, but also walking in the light as He is in the light, and have fellowship one with another, the Blood of Jesus Christ, God’s Son cleansing us.

This is what we desire, we prayed it Lord, we lay it back upon Your altar, believing it is Your Word and we have a right to ask for it, then Lord also knowing we have a right to believe for it.

Help us tonight, in Jesus’ Name, we pray. Amen.

You may be seated.

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Now we’re still answering the questions from a certain brother that wrote me from Europe, and we took last Sunday, I suppose it was last Sunday, yeah, concerning the fact he asked me about a certain individual from Belgium came to him and brought him a little bit of a problem in that he could not believe what the man said, and he’s right in not believing it, that we are teaching some strange doctrine apart from what Brother Branham taught, which of course is the Parousia, or known as the Presence.

And of course the man says it causes confusion and disorder. Well didn’t Jesus cause confusion and disorder according to what the people thought?

So if we were not causing some disorder in the sense that we were putting people a little bit to the point of the sword, let me tell you God said, “Cursed is man whose sword does not draw blood.”

And if we’re on the battlefield without the skill of the Holy Spirit, and Brother Branham said that sword in the hand of the skilled swordsman will accomplish the work of Almighty God.

And so the brother was very kind, and he said, “How can people speak against something while they don’t really know what they’re speaking about?” And you’ll find that tonight as we go in a little further into this subject on the Parousia.

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Now the Parousia is simply a word in the Bible that means ‘Presence’. And it has been fought over for centuries, and in fact about a hundred years ago, a very large book was written by a certain man who literally missed the point a hundred percent.

And of course he went back to the Book of Matthew chapter 24 in there, where they came to Jesus, and they just left the temple and Jesus said, “Well,” he said, “there’s not going to be one stone left upon another, they’re all going to be thrown down.”

And so when they got to the Mount of Olives, in the 3rd verse:

Matthew 24:3

(03) …the disciples came… to him privately, saying, Tell us, when these things [shall] be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and the end of the world?

Now he took the thought there that the Parousia would actually mean an actual coming. In other words the second coming. And actually in other words the setting up of His Kingdom.

Because you see, that’s exactly what most people believe the second coming actually is, is Christ returning to the earth with His Bride and setting up His Kingdom.

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Now that is true that that happens, but that’s not the second coming, that’s the third coming.

Because you’re talking with, as Brother Branham said, Christ coming mortal to shed His Blood, then Christ coming back for His saints, when He meets them in the air, now watch carefully, meeting in the air, and that’s 1 Thessalonians chapter 4:15,16, and through there, 16, and then you’ll notice in Revelation 19, he says concerning Revelation 19, that the Bride goes up in the 4th chapter because John types the Bride being caught up to the throne, or before the throne as he was.

And then he said you don’t see the church, the true Bride again, until Revelation 19, when she comes back with Jesus Christ, and of course at that particular time He reigns and rules with a rod of iron, dashing in shivers the nations, and at that particular time that takes place.

Then of course, I don’t know if this is on a tape or not, but I did ask him personally, I think it’s on a tape, where he said Christ renovates at least a part of the earth, and the Bride then and the Groom then set up the rest of the tenure upon the earth, which under the beautiful conditions existed in Eden and on the earth, are restored yet even in a higher and more marvelous form.

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So all right, this fellow here, I think his name is Russell, not the Russell that has to do with the , you know Jehovah Witness and so on, he said here that this word ‘Parousia’ has to do with that coming. And he bases it upon what he calls his own fact in Scripture.

And he said that Jesus Christ had talked to the disciples concerning His coming and His glory, the great Kingdom to come, that they were thoroughly conversant with it, and so when they spoke of this word ‘coming’ they literally knew that He was going to come again, and He’s going to set up His Kingdom.

That is the biggest stupidest lie, the most stupid thing I’ve ever heard in my life concerning the Scripture! Because even after He died, and they found Him on the Road to Emmaus, they still didn’t have a real clue!

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Now come on! Let’s not be stupid! Read your Bibles. See? Go to the Book of Luke and let’s find out what they were like.

They were in shock. Very last chapter of the Book of Luke chapter 24. Now it says in verse 13,

Luke 24:13-18

(13) And, behold, two of them went that same day [that’s the resurrection morning,] to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about [sixty] furlongs. [One furlong is 582 feet, so they’re going a few feet, few miles.]

(14) And they talked together of all these things which had happened.

(15) And it came to pass, while they communed and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them. [And their eyes couldn’t recognize him because he wouldn’t let himself be recognized.]

(16) Their eyes were holden that they should not know him. [He deliberately did it.]

(17) And he said unto them, What communication [what are you talking about? You’ve got with] one another, [while you’re walking, and you seem so] sad?

(18) And one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answer[ed], Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast [thou] not known the things which are come to pass in these days?

That sure sounds like they knew about the coming glory and Kingdom! Here’s a smorgasbord spread, not just hot dogs and hamburgers, but pheasant under-glass and special kinds of caviar which is nothing but gooseberries that taste like fish. Roast turkey, everything here.

Say, “My God, I wish I had some food, my God I wish I had some food!” Can you imagine that these men knew what this author says?

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Well let’s keep reading.

Luke 24:18-23

(18) …[Are you] only a stranger [that you don’t know what’s happened here,] in Jerusalem…

(19) He said, What things? And they said, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:

(20) And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and crucified.

(21) But we [had] trusted [he’d been the one] which should have redeemed Israel: beside all this, [this] is the third day [when] these things were done.

(22) …, and certain [people,] women [especially, oh big mouthed women, also, but they belonged to] our company, [and we had listened to them, flapping their jaws. They] made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre; [Women beat them to the sepulchre.]

(23) And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had seen a vision of angels, which said he was alive. [That just complicates the matters even more!]

Who are you going to believe? Some man that’s a preacher and writes a book? Or are you going to believe the Word of God? You do what you want.

They don’t fool me one bit, I don’t care how big a book he writes. Four hundred pages, six hundred, ten thousand, it’s all garbage!

Because his premise is a hundred percent wrong! See? These guys didn’t know for diddilies about a second coming, because they couldn’t even comprehend the first coming.

So you tell me you can’t count to one, but suddenly you can count to two? Hah! Pshew. Now I’m not being sarcastic, I’m just being right down to earth. Huh.

Luke 24:25-32

(25) [And] he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

(26) Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? [No suffering, no glory.]

(27) And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded them in all the scripture the things concerning himself.

(28) And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and made as though he would have gone further.

(29) [And] they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.

(30) And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and [broke], and gave to them.

(31) And [then] their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

(32) They said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, [they knew something was going on.]

Now listen, the anointed words of the anointed Son of God standing right there, [blank spot on tape] …let’s understand it.

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Now let’s not even stop there. Now Luke writes, and he talks about Jesus.

Acts 1:1-2

(01) The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and [to] teach, [which is what a prophet does, he does it with any Word that is of God. As Paul said, “My Word is not of man, not of myself, it’s of God.”]

(02) Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

Now look, it came by the Holy Ghost the commandments, which were fine, but remember Paul was the one that had the revelation and the Word.

Acts 1:3-6

(03) To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

(04) And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

(05) For John truly baptized with water; but [you’ll] be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

(06) When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom of Israel?

What’s that guy talking about? Here they still haven’t got a real clue! You understand what I’m saying?

Here He is, forty days with the people. Now they come and they say after forty days, and they say, “Are You going to restore the Kingdom now?”

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So go on back to Matthew. If they couldn’t figure it then, after seeing him alive from the dead forty days, don’t tell me they knew it back there in Matthew 24!

Because if tonight you don’t know that two and two make four, suddenly tomorrow morning you will not know two and two make four, or three and three make six! Now make up your mind.

See look, let’s get down to the nitty-gritty where human beings are. Not some great big exalted doctrine a million miles into space or the New Jerusalem, let’s get down to the Bible right here.

They didn’t recognize Him, their hearts burned. Now after recognizing, they say, “Will You now restore the Kingdom?”

And He’d been dinning in their ears, “No! It’s way down the road!” He talked about the Great Tribulation, He talked about the seeds by Titus, the Diasporas, they didn’t understand it!

And there wasn’t any way because the Holy Ghost was not yet given to them. They needed the key.

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Now listen, they said:

Acts 1:6-11

(06) …wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

(07) And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own [hands].

(08) But [you’ll] receive power, after the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and [you’ll] be witness unto me in Jerusalem, in Judaea, [also] in Samaria, [even] unto the uttermost part of the earth.

(09) And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

(10) And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

(11) Which said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven?

They were rebuked! Say, “Well maybe they were just being not rebuked, but questioned.” Why would you question anybody that doesn’t signify some rebuke and something of unbelief, because you saw him up, wouldn’t you just go, “Uh?”

Tell me, how much have you got on the ball, that if you saw somebody taken up you wouldn’t… [blank spot on tape.]

And they must have kind of thought it was a yo-yo situation, up and down.

So he rebuked them. “Why are you standing here?”

Acts 1:11

(11) …this same Jesus, which is taken from you [up] into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

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But he said, “Don’t you stick around here waiting for times and seasons. You go on back and get full of the Holy Ghost, which Jesus just talked about.”

So therefore when people begin writing books and telling you this and that and the other thing, you’d better know jolly well what they’re talking about, because the point is this: they don’t know what they’re talking about.

You’d better know where the error lies.

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All right, let’s look at this picture of the Parousia. The Parousia does not actually deal with the literal coming, the advent of the process of coming or going, it deals with the fact that the person or whatever is there having already come.

How many people knew whatever came down at the river, Ohio River, at the foot of Spring Street in Jeffersonville, was going to come down? Not even William Branham knew it.

The question is: what came down or Who came down? Now that’s the picture.

Brother Branham categorically said, “The Elijah of this hour is the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.” Not man, God! But comes by a prophet.

Now either you understand that or you don’t understand it. You’ve helped to understand by this next quote.

“When you see God descend from the heavens and stand before groups of men, and declare Himself as ever He did.”

You understand again that Brother Branham was asked the question, “What exactly does it mean when Jesus said, “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father”?”

He said, “You’re looking at me, aren’t you? The same thing!”

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See people don’t believe that God’s in the prophets, “Well I got the Holy Ghost, I’m a student, I’m this, I’m that, I went to the altar.”

I don’t care two bits if you went to the altar, you went to heaven and back again, you could end plumb up in hell.

As an unbeliever. You can be as defiant as Cain, and you can think you know something, you don’t know it at all. And you can think you know something as Peter, James and John did, and not know it the way Paul did it!

And Brother Branham said there’s no great one amongst us. Great ones, he said the great One is here. Brother Branham concerning himself said, like John the Baptist, “He must increase and I must decrease.”

The trouble is people can take quote after quote that Brother Branham said and misapply it, like you could do the Bible.

Now there’s only one way that you can get the quotes of Brother Branham right, is to take them back to the Bible and see them in here!

Because Brother Branham couldn’t add one word or take one word, and when the Seals were opened, and they said, “Brother Branham you could write a new Bible,” he said no way, shape and form, and he said the devil was trying to trick him by the mouths of those so-called Holy Ghost preachers.

He said, “Because it’s already in the Book.”

Even when Brother Branham said at the end time under the Seventh Seal, revealing those mysteries which were not known from before the foundation of the world, they have to be in here, and he was have to be saying they weren’t revealed in their proper content!

Because everything in this was before the foundation of the world. But they’ll abuse themselves, and abuse you and try to abuse me.

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The doctrine of the so-called Parousia, which simply is the Presence, as I said, has been known for centuries. It’s all through the Bible.

And you have only one question to ask: if there is a Presence, who is present? Well you know positively the Lord Jesus Christ in flesh is not present.

And Brother Branham said if He’s the same yesterday, today and forever, now get this carefully! When he used Hebrews 13:8, he invariably went to Genesis, is it 18 or 19?

Let’s find out so no mealy-mouthed person’s going to start fussing at me. It’s the [18th] chapter.

When God came down on the plains of Mamre, and Abraham sat in the tent door, and he saw three human beings, of which two he recognized as angels, and one he recognized as God.

And after he killed the calf and Brother Branham said God ate the flesh of a calf, and drank the milk.

Then when Sarah was in the tent, God stood out that tent with His back to the tent, and He said, “Sarah shall have a child, though she’s ninety years old,” and she laughed in her heart, and God said, “Sarah, why did you laugh?”

And she said, “I didn’t laugh.”

He said, “Oh but you did.” And God would have killed her except she was the part of Abraham…

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And Brother Branham categorically, the night in Jeffersonville, the last series of meetings in the high school, the night that Mitchell was there from Virginia, who had tuberculosis, he was a miner, and Brother Branham deliberately turned his back, called him by name, discerned the disease, I believe he pronounced him healed, but not ‘THUS SAITH THE LORD’, and he said that was exactly Hebrews 13:8!

Now he said, “If He’s the same yesterday, today and forever and He’s obligated to do for the Gentiles what He did for the Jews when He was here in the flesh, He will now in the form of the Holy Ghost do identical!”

And Brother Branham said that was the last sign the church sees before she’s caught up.

When they said to him, “Brother Branham what does it mean, ‘When you’ve seen me, you’ve seen the Father’?”

He said, “You’re looking at me aren’t you? Same thing.”

Now get this flat.

He said, “It’s not William Branham that says ‘THUS SAITH THE LORD’ and everything comes to pass, it’s not Brother Branham that calls out those diseases, it’s not William Branham that makes that thing come to pass,” he said, “it’s God, and God’s in the prophet,” and he said, “the Pillar of Fire is standing up inside of me right now.” Not at that one time, but he said another time.

Now what do you want to for a nickel? You say you believe the Message, you can’t believe this Message without believing the messenger, knowing who he is and what his empowerment is from God!

As Brother Branham said he’s God to the people, oh they didn’t want that! “I want to tell you, I want it so I know something!”

“Well bless God, Lee Vayle’s smart, he knows this, and he knows that, he don’t need nobody.”

Well, you ask my wife about that, it’s getting to the place I don’t even cut my toenails anymore. Not because I’m too fat, but my fingers are going.

You find out one of these days you really need God, might be just too late too. Might be way too late.

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All right, we’ve used these quotes. In 1 Thessalonians 4, it says: “The Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a Shout.”

Brother Branham said it was a Message, which is true, putting the church in order.

Now the question is, is Brother Branham, I’m using this with the other quote Brother Branham said, “When Moses went down to Egypt, God did not only appear there in signs and wonders, but He Himself also appeared in a Pillar of Fire upon Mount Sinai, so today.”

Then when it says, “The Lord Himself then shall descend with the Shout,” the Elijah of this hour, the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, not man, God.

Again he mentions concerning Joshua, the leader, is the Holy Ghost. Again mentioning when he showed there weren’t three gods, Jesus said God was His Father, yet the Bible said the Holy Ghost came upon Mary; He couldn’t have had two Fathers.

A woman can have babies with two different fathers, and they can be twins in her womb too, impregnated about just about the same time, or even one man impregnated his wife, and she was going to have a baby and six weeks later she got pregnant again, and when it came time for the first baby to get born, it almost killed the second baby and the mother.

And that’s record, that’s absolutely medical record. I know where you can get the record.

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So all right, your question is: Who came down? I ask you. Before anybody knew about one thing, God going to appear in human flesh, Who came down at the time of Abraham? Who was it? It was Elohim!

What is Jehovah with all His compound titles anything but Elohim? Elohim revealing Himself, because it was Elohim Who said, “By My Name Jehovah I have not been formerly known!” He already had it, waiting for the hour to come forth.

So we’re looking at this picture, Who came down? It wasn’t the body that came down, with the Shout, the Voice and the Trumpet.

It wasn’t the body that came down, as Brother Branham said, concerning Mount Sinai, the Pillar of Fire, “So today and we’ve got His picture.”

He said it was God appearing in signs and wonder and getting His picture taken! What is that then but the Shekinah glory, which is merely the light and the glory attendant upon what is behind the light and the glory?

That’s the closest you’ll ever get to seeing God right there, when it comes to manifestation of that particular order.

Now Brother Branham also categorically said, concerning this One Who came down here, the One that’s inhabiting him, the One that he said is the same yesterday, today, and forever, on the grounds that it wasn’t Jesus that did the works, he said, “My Father in me doeth the works!”

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All right. He said this great One that came down, and is doing the works, absolutely is God Himself, in the prophet, and according to the Word of God, which was laid down by the people before God, and God accepted it and He put it in their way, in their hearts in order to do it.

Which was He said, “This one that’s going to speak for Me will have to come vindicated before he speaks one word.” Then of course plenty of prophets will rise up with signs and wonders and will come against the Word, they’re the false ones.

And so we see when Brother Branham tells us categorical, “When you see God descend from the heavens and stand before groups of men and declare Himself as ever He did,” he’s telling you the way that God absolutely always appears and shows Himself!

So in this hour He has showed Himself in signs and wonders! And actually come down doing it, getting His picture taken, showing that He’s identical, Hebrews 13:8, how He’s leading us out of our bondage of Babylon, not only our bondage in Babylon, but even leading us out of the bondage of the church and the corruption of the flesh, so there’s going to be a resurrection, and a changed human body, we caught away to the Wedding Supper.

Now that’s what you’re looking at is the Presence. Now let’s just take a look and see if I’m just blowing off hot air or not. I told you positively if Brother Branham said a thing it’s our job to go to the Bible to see if he’s right.

Not to see if he’s right in the sense we want to see if he’s right, we want to see that he’s right on the grounds we can take it right back to the Word of God.

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Now Brother Branham categorically said in 1962, “My ministry is to declare that He is here!”

But he said in the Rapture tape, “There is no such thing as a true healing revival unless God sends a new Message.”

And Brother Branham spoke of that healing revival, “For thirty solid years it had been on, (he said,) and not diminished.”

Brother Branham said, “That God does not vindicate the same old tired message.”

Now what is the Message of His Presence according to Orthodox religion and Pentecostals, and I’ll read from a guy’s book tonight and the whole shebang.

Their understanding of the Presence is God shed forth the Holy Ghost on the day of Pentecost, and from that time on He’s present with us always! And therefore that is the Presence!

I want to ask you a question. Who was it that came to the Apostle Paul even before he was baptized with the Holy Ghost and knew anything about a Presence by the baptism? Who was it that smote him on the Road to Damascus? “Who art Thou Lord?”

“I am Jehovah!” And he knew it.

The man that was a blasphemer, a man that was a murderer, now was told by God, “You go down to a house where Ananias lives, and a house called Straight in Damascus.”

So he went to the street called Straight, and the house of Damascus, and God warned Ananias, said, “There’s a man called Saul, that old murderer, coming down here to your house.”

And poor old Ananias got scared. “Well,” he said, “I hope he doesn’t really find my door, because he’s the guy that just hauls people to court and has them killed them off.”

And He said, “No, it’s not this time. He’d been struck blind by Me, you’re going to lay hands on him so he can receive the Holy Ghost and then his sight.”

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Now the question comes up this, that’s exactly what Paul did. Now if the Apostle Paul, simply on the grounds of the baptism with the Holy Ghost, can receive the pure Word by Word revelation that we have here, then every other person is entitled to it!

And that’s where everybody makes a mistake, especially the Pentecostals, and those people that believe when they’re born again they’re full of the Holy Ghost!

They said, “Well I got the Holy Ghost, bless God, I don’t need no prophet.” You lying scum! Because that’s what you are!

How did you get this Word in the first place? How did a man get it? It wasn’t because he was baptized with the Holy Ghost; he was a chosen vessel unto Almighty God, a prophet born as Jeremiah from before his mother’s womb!

Born with a special mechanism where the mind blips in and out into visions, trances. Why don’t you try it? You’ll end up as a bunch of spirit worshippers plumb to the pit of hell. Go ahead.

You say, “Brother Vayle, you’re tough,” don’t even call me brother I suppose after that. Hey I am tough. I know what I’m talking about. I’m not standing up just mouthing off.

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All right, I mentioned that Brother Branham categorically, he himself said, “I cannot preach any other doctrine than Paul preached! I cannot preach anything outside the Word!”

He said, “This book is completely filled!” And he said, “The Seventh Seal, the Seven Seals corrected the errors!”

Filled in the revelations, all the mysteries being fulfilled! People don’t want to believe that. That’s because they’ve got their own ideas about mysteries.

Doesn’t mean because something mysterious to you it’s not in the prophet’s message, hasn’t been cleared up for somebody.

You going around butting your head against the wall doesn’t mean that you know something nobody else does because you butt your head against a wall.

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All right, going back again, it has to be in the Word! And Brother Branham said, “My ministry is to declare that He is here!”

Where is it in the Word that He being here is not simply in your heart by the Holy Ghost, but He Himself, He Himself being here, because that’s different from what you got! You only got a part of that!

You having the Holy Ghost is no different than you having… [blank spot on tape] …… it being like a salmon by sperm count. And had billions and those billions could have billions more, because you dealing with the life stream. Not only created, now start dealing with God. Is He any different? No.

God by bringing forth even millions of children, wise and foolish virgin children…

Not a great big whooping family, here’s big God, little god, next god and so on, oh we’ll get together and vote Him out, and we’ll all be gods, same rank, all same rank, everybody’s God now.

Listen, it’s insanity! Who came down? It’s right there. When you saw William Branham, you saw God.

Say, “Oh Brother Vayle, blasphemy.” Well I’ve got news for you. Chicken out, go ahead, don’t have the guts to stay with the Word.

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See here’s where you see they’re all getting mixed up; they don’t believe that Brother Branham had the true revelation. So they got to ham it up. They’ve got to add to it.

Do you think the people out there that don’t believe the Presence; do you think for one minute they really believe that William Branham was truly God to the people? Now when they saw him they saw God. Yeah.

Do you know what if they heard themselves say, “You weren’t looking at a man, you were looking at God,” they’d go home and wash their mouths out with carbolic acid, if not drink prussic acid and cut their tongues out, and maybe stab themselves in the heart, because they knew they had a devil.

I didn’t say they would, I said maybe. I think I did anyway, put it to a maybe stage. What was it all about? God in the man, but not like He’s in you and me!

Because the fullness of God does not inhabit you and me! It’s merely the life coming upon the life, like in a union, bringing us back to God, in a perfect harmony again. See?

So we look at all these things, and people simply do not understand what we’re saying, because what they do, they know their own thinking, so they say, “Well that can’t be right, because my thinking doesn’t say that,” and they don’t know they’re not thinking what the prophet thought!

That makes it a very bad situation. Too bad, but that’s the way it is, and I guess that’s the way it’s going to continue.

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Now Brother Branham categorically mentioned that coming and appearing were two different things.

Now categorically we know that the world positively believes that the Rapture is the Appearing. But let’s understand this, that is not so.

The days of the Son of man is the Appearing. And that’s when He showed He was here with signs and wonders and even had His picture taken.

So we know where we stand on His Presence! But what troubles me is not the fact that you and I know that!

What troubles me is the fact that we do not have the sincerity anywhere near what Brother Branham had in realizing the Presence of Him Who is here!

It’s like when Bank Woods was talking to that deity bunch that came out of Canada, they’re all down here now of course. And I don’t think anybody’s up in Canada that’s deity anymore, could be, I don’t know.

And Banks said, “So you say William Branham is God.”

“Yeah.”

“Well,” he said, “it sure beats me, because you being around the way you are, nothing is rubbed off on him to you the way you’re acting.”

Is that the way it is with us? Well I’m going to tell you something, you will never have the reality of the Holy Ghost making real to you and transforming you according to what you and I want unless we first of all believe the mechanics!

Because you’ll never ride on wheels until you get wheels! Yeah, your gas won’t do you a bit of good until you get the spark.

And Brother Branham always talked about mechanics and dynamics and everybody gets carried away as though “Well you got the mechanics, blah, blah, blah.”

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Well I want to tell you one thing, if you ain’t got the mechanics you ain’t going to get the dynamics! Because that’s where the foolish virgin is!

She does not have the mechanics, because it said she didn’t have oil in her vessel, she had the vessel! But evidently it had leaked out!

Now listen, it says they trimmed their lamps and they got them burning. Those lamps in my understanding evidently weren’t burning or they plumb burned themselves out, there was no oil. What happened? They didn’t have the right message.

Because Brother Branham categorically said, he said, “That oil in there was the Word,” also It is as the Holy Spirit, but remember he puts the two together on the grounds that the measure of the Holy Spirit is a measure of the Word, and you can’t have the Holy Spirit without a conduit, you can’t have the Holy Ghost and something to pour Him into, and if you’re not Word, having come from God, the Holy Ghost will never get in you.

Let’s get that flat. If you haven’t got the right Word, there’ll be no anointing, and it’s true, you’ll never get the dynamics. Because God will not give dynamics to anything but what is His.

You say, “What about the fact that these people out there, he said they’ve got these gifts?” Where did you ever find that gifts is the Holy Ghost? They’re simply gifts of the Holy Ghost.

Like I give you my pen, that’s a gift, I don’t give you myself. If I gave you myself then you’d be heir to my life. Right? “God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son.”

Why? Because that One was life, in Him was life. The life was the light of men. You can’t bypass this Word, there’s no way, there’s no way at all.

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Now I do admit there’s a great misunderstanding concerning these things, but it’s not my point to try to get into everything concerning it, but I’ve got a little book in my hands given to me.

A message commentary on the erroneous Parousia doctrine. Now it’s a sad commentary that this man will write something he doesn’t know about.

Now this brother in France, he said, “How can you judge anything until first of all you know what you’re judging?”

In other words, let’s put it straight. If I’ve got a dog show, and I’m going to have the doggies come by the judge, and the tails got to be so, and the snoot up here so, and I say, “Well I’ll tell what I’m going to do. We’re going to have the dogs judged by a judge who judges sheep.”

They say, “Hold it, hold it, hold it. What are you trying to tell me? You can’t have a dog show and a sheep judge come in. You can’t have a horse show and see something else come in.”

Well how are you going to judge anything if you’re not qualified to judge it? That you don’t know the story?

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Number one: he says, “The Parousia doctrine is false because it opposes and contradicts Brother Branham’s message that teaches us with clarity that we are not to try to figure out the mysteries of God.”

I never tried to figure anything out. Brother Branham said, “My ministry is to declare that He is here,” and he said, “there’s no such thing as a true healing revival,” which he had, “that doesn’t bring a fresh message.”

Then what is his fresh message about? He’s here! What is the old message? He is everywhere. And they get to the place, “I breathe Him in, I breathe Him out, I wave my arms,” and pretty soon you’re eating and drinking.

You’re into the most stupid type of universalism under God’s high heaven. Pretty soon you’ll believe the rocks are going to cry out because they’ve got voices.

Well sure they will if you grind them into powder, and the powder energizes a plant and you eat the plant and you cry out, then the rocks have cried out! That can happen.

Like Brother Branham said He turned water into wine, He just bypassed the grape. See I’m not perfect Scripture grounds when I bring out these illustrations. Okay, flip your tape.

“Without even delving into specific refutations of the teaching of the Parousia doctrine,” because he can’t, he doesn’t know what they’re about, “it is revealed as false because it’s built on a false premise. The wisdom of man figuring out the mysteries of God. Even a brief study in the Bible and church history indicates that this same false premise is usually present in all false doctrines that are proliferated through the ages.”

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Now just a minute. He said this is a revelation. Well if somebody else had it down the road, what’s he talking about us having a revelation? This would then be the simple teaching of a former error.

Now what did Brother Branham say that he came to do? Under the Seven Seals? They corrected the errors.

I’ll say I got to visualize a blackboard up here, and there’s nothing on it. And you look at the blackboard, and you say, “Brother Vayle correct the errors.” There’s nothing on it.

Well you say that in itself is an error, that there’s nothing on it. Who do you think I am that I should put my hand on the board and write something? You getting the picture? William Branham’s Message?

It’s all in the Bible, and men have looked at it wrong, and it’s time to correct it!

So what is this Message of the Presence? He took them to Matthew 4, and I can see now why he did, had he taken them to Matthew 12, they would have fallen and understand, and understood the truth, which they were supposed to understand, because when they said, “Brother Branham understand there’s ten thousand people believe this message.”

“Too many, got to shake them off.”

Now they tell me there’s up to five hundred thousand. Eight made the flood, one made the rapture.

He said a brief study. So the man doesn’t know what he’s talking about. All due respect, if he can say what he wants, and he puts page after page of little things Brother Branham said. But what’s the use if you don’t know the doctrine?

“The Parousia doctrine is false because it contradicts and opposes Brother Branham’s message that states plainly that Revelation 5:6-10 has yet to come to pass.”

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Now what does he say about that? Well let’s read it, because it’s interesting. Let’s find out if he knows what he’s saying. Now you know right now he doesn’t.

Revelation 10, you know the mighty One came down, and he declared of course, it says here:

Revelation 10:5-6

(05) The angel which [inaudible] upon lifted his hand to heaven,

(06) And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, [and so on,] that time [should be] no longer:

And he goes into the fact that Brother Branham said that times goes plumb past the Millennium. When have I not taught that?

Doesn’t this man know by reading the same Bible that Brother Branham read, which was the Scofield edition, which is the King James Version, that it says, Time should be no longer delayed.”

So Brother Branham said, “The time is no longer.” But did you forget that Brother Branham said, “Time and eternity have mingled”?

So therefore time is going on while eternity has set in. Does this man not know that Brother Branham said the Seventh Seal is Revelation 10:1-7? No he doesn’t! He doesn’t know it. There’s no way he can know it. He wouldn’t have said it.

He said, “Yet to come pass.”

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Does he know the Seventh Seal is a Roman candle that shoots plumb off into eternity? Doesn’t he know there were seven seals on the back of the Book?

And does he not know that Brother Branham himself made a mistake that he himself had to correct?

When he preached before the Seals there were seven seals inside, and he illustrated, he said, “In the old days they had a scroll, maybe of a papyrus or a sheep’s skin,” and he said, “they rolled and put a seal, then they took the other piece on top and rolled and put a seal, and rolled up with the seven seals inside.”

There is no Scripture for it! And Brother Branham came back and apologized! If there are seven seals on the back of that Book written, and six seals are ripped off, and one remains, then the Book cannot be opened! You say why waste your time.

“The Parousia doctrine’s false because it contradicts Brother Branham’s straightforward teaching that the part of the Seventh Seal yet remains. Understanding a portion of the Seventh Seal yet remains a mystery. It becomes even more apparent in Revelation 10:6 to the future event.”

It’s an ongoing, it’s an ongoing event. You’ll never get him to understand that. All these other quotes in here, they don’t have one bit of thing to do with it.

“The Word comes to the prophet, not the pope or a council of sophists. If you’re not a prophet, you’re in new revelation of anything different,” his English is not even right, “then what God’s prophet Brother Branham brought is of a necessity false. Since the Parousia doctrine has its inception in the teaching of men and not the prophet, Brother Branham taught no such doctrine while alive on the earth.”

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What about the doctrine he said, “My ministry is to declare that He is here”? What about the fact he said, “God did not only go down in Egypt with Moses and appear in signs and wonders, but He Himself also appeared in a Pillar of Fire upon Mount Sinai, so today, and we have His picture. When you see God descend from heaven and stand before groups of men and declare Himself as ever He did.”

Ah this man is a million miles off the picture, because he never has believed the prophet! You know why? Because he will not give his thinking over to the prophet.

I learned that while none of you understood it, when Brother Branham put his finger under my nose, and set me straight. When you get the finger of a prophet under your nose, you’ll begin to understand you don’t know anything, even though you think you know what he said.

You got to get rid of your own thinking. Time after time I’ve looked at some of Brother Branham’s sermons and scratched my head and said, “Oh God be merciful, I can’t face it.”

And then say, “Just a minute buddy, he said it; you’d better get to know it.” And you know what I found out? It wasn’t even beginning to be what I thought it was.

That doesn’t make me anything, but I balk under such nonsense. The man doesn’t know that his ministry was a Message!

One fellow came to Bob Brown one time, and he says, “Bob,” he said, “what does the Presence got to do with the Message?”

 

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Now he said here, number five: “The author’s and promulgators of this Parousia doctrine count themselves prophets, remember that a prophet receives part of the Word today, could never bring anything contrary to what Brother Branham has already brought, because there’s only one major prophet messenger,” and so on and so on.

See he doesn’t know that William Branham had to line up everything with this Book and he did it! He’s still reading his Scripture wrong.

All these things… listen, you can do what you want, you can write anything, but I want to tell you something, the minute you put your name to this, and let me tell you where he sent this little article. Oh he’s happy with what he wrote.

And you know something? Standing here tonight, I can almost bet you one million dollars to a hole in a doughnut, that he actually believes the Presence and doesn’t even know it.

All you got to ask: Who came down? Because Brother Branham said, “Jesus does all three in descending.” And Who is Jesus? Jehovah. Who is the one in the manger? Little Jehovah.

Anybody here named John? Yeah. Well there’s nobody here named Aaron. What if little Aaron was in a crib. Little Aaron crying. Son of God.

Brother/sister let me tell you something. I’ve waited over twenty-five years for some of my answers.

I’ve got a unique patience with my crashing personality that comes out with Sherman tanks and blazing cannons. But I got a patience you don’t know a thing about. I can suddenly go dead and wait for the answers.

I’m not saying this man doesn’t have it, but he better learn to slow down. Nobody considers himself a prophet, no man living has put the prophet forward as I’ve put him forward, and if he says he has, he’s a liar, because I’ve got the books to prove it.

If any man says I’ve preached not William Branham and Jesus Christ, the master and the servant, that person doesn’t know what he said. And if any man thinks I’m off this Message, I don’t care if he comes or not, let him write his books, here’s what he says:

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Number seven: “The Parousia doctrine is false because it contradicts and opposes the message Brother Branham brought us, there are only three comings of Christ. The second coming is a future event when Christ meets His Bride in the air.”

When did I or anybody else that believes this Message right, ever say that this was the second coming? This is the Appearing. This is the days of the Son of man.

And what are the days of the Son of man? When God Himself in human form did what no man could ever do!

And he said in John 15, which Brother Branham absolutely quoted, and I did not know he had read it and quoted it, “If I had not done the works no other man did, they had not sinned, but now they have both seen and hated both me and my Father!”

And he said, “It is the Father that doeth the works,” and he said, “it’s the Father that says the words!” Son of man. Elohim.

The head of woman is the man, the head of man is Christ, the Head of Christ is God. Don’t ever forget it. Not two gods. No, no.

And Brother Branham said, “Headship has come!” Nobody said it was the second coming. Because it isn’t! It’s the Appearing.

It is God in 1 Corinthians the 15th chapter putting everything under the feet of Jesus at the time of the Presence, which is at the time of the first fruits of the Gentile church, read it for yourself.

See, they don’t know what they’re talking about.

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Three physicals coming, one mortal to die, one to meet the Bride in the air, and at that time – now listen – when the Spirit that’s in our midst becomes incarnate!

What Spirit incarnated Himself in Jesus’ body? God! Elohim! Who went into the great man Moses? Who to the great man Paul? Who to the great man William Branham? God! Here’s your Scripture.

I do not relish coming across things like this when I see a man make dog meat out of the Message the prophet brought us.

“Parousia is false, it contradicts and opposes the message Brother Branham plainly teaches, that all the message is valid, not just portions, which accommodate personal beliefs. For example many ignore the message prior to the teaching of the Seven Seals; this is indeed a strange approach. As subsumed in this attitude is the belief that God sent us a prophet Elijah, the voice of the seventh angel of the Book of Revelation, who spent over eighty percent of his ministry teaching unreliable and error ridden doctrine.”

I don’t know what he’s talking about there. If he thinks that we don’t believe every single thing, he’s certainly wrong.

But I can tell you right now, that Brother Branham said that this prophet in the former rain sows the entire seed of the Bible from the serpent to the prophet in the former rain, and he preached on serpent seed in 1958, September.

You say, “Then don’t you believe what he said before?” Certainly! But it was in 1958 the actual formation of the Message really began to come into focus, and it ended seven years later! God in sevens.

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Let’s go further, this is interesting.

“The Parousia doctrine is false because it contradicts and opposes Brother Branham’s exhortation not to rely on the Greek or any languages of method of proving truth. To interpret the message via Greek or Hebrew is to change absolutes.”

That’s not what Brother Branham said, and I know because I’ve put it in the book myself. The idea is this; you cannot have a doctrine based upon simply a Greek word and argue about it!

But we’re not arguing about a Greek word, simple Greek word. We’re arguing about a complete doctrine that’s through the Bible that Brother Branham preached!

Furthermore Brother Branham himself had to go to the Bible. One time he even went to the Diaglott, because that’s all he had, and anybody knows the Diaglott is in Latin, done by the Roman Catholics, and they pervert the very Scripture from the Greek to the Latin, but let’s face it, nobody’s smart enough to take every verse in the Bible and pervert it and line it up.

So Brother Branham could go to the Diaglott and get the word he wanted.

At the same time Brother Branham with the King James Version, went to Philippians the 2nd chapter, and he got the word for the Greek, which means ‘formed’.

And he even began to use the Greek terminology concerning the fullness of God, where God poured into Christ. What’s all this talk this man talking? Nobody went to the Greek to find a doctrine.

We took what Brother Branham said categorically to the Bible! And what Brother Branham said is a hundred percent right!

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See they don’t know Matthew 12. I really believe… I don’t know that I really believe.

Look put it this way, since Matthew 12 is so far ahead, a million miles ahead of Matthew chapter 4, did Brother Branham leave this for you and me to really seek the Word of God and know what he’s saying?

Let’s go to Matthew 4 and read it. And then we go to Matthew 12, it’s the same thing. And in verse 12, when John cast in prison and so on.

Matthew 4:13-

(13) And leaving Nazareth, he [goes and dwells] in Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim:

(14) That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,

(15) The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles; [The Gentiles have a Galilee evidently. Now:]

(16) The people which sat in darkness saw great light; …to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.

(17) From that [day] Jesus began to preach, and say, Repent: the kingdom of [God] is at hand.

And Brother Branham categorically used that saying, that Jesus Christ was absolutely bound, obligated to do what he did for the Jews in the form of the flesh, now to do to the Gentiles.

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Now go to Matthew the 12th chapter, where it’s really spilled the beans. It’s the same thing. See? In verse 13, the man is healed.

Matthew 12:13-14

(13) …Stretch forth [your] hand.

(14) Pharisees, [hold] a council against him, they might destroy him.

What was going to destroy Jesus in our day? The World Council of Churches! Crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh.

Matthew 12:15

(15) Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from [the multitude]: …healed them all;

He never healed them all! Far as I know, except at this one time. I saw that happen in Canada. He said, “Bring me twenty-four of your worst cases, I guarantee healing!”

And I said, “Oh goody, this will rock the universe!” Twenty-four guaranteed miracles, and they wouldn’t fall for it!

They said, “Oh no, we go through the prayer line.” I saw hundreds that night and there wasn’t one failure! Healed them all!

When Brother Branham was with us in 1957, in Lima, Ohio, I didn’t know one person that wasn’t healed! And he picked them out of the audience, dozen after dozen, and people came there not even expecting anything were healed because we’d prayed and prayed for days and days and days!

And believed God, preaching faith until if I’d have said, “When Brother Branham sneezes, you’ll be healed,” they would have believed it.

The gift of healing went in operation Friday night, fifty miracles in fifty minutes, the first and last time five years, and ever since to my knowledge.

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All right.

Matthew 12:15-21

(15) …healed them all;

(16) And charged them that they should not make him known: [It didn’t make him known then, did it make him known now? No.]

(17) That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet,

(18) Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles. [What’s his judgment? See?]

(19) He shall not strive, nor cry; neither any man hear his voice in the streets.

(20) A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.

(21) And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.

There’s your 12th chapter, there’s exactly what Jesus did today in the form of the Holy Ghost in a Pillar of Fire, He came down here, and they never heard His voice in the street, but they heard Him in Israel.

In fact He raised His voice in the streets! Shall not strive, He kicked them out of the temple, whipped them and lashed them. See?

The bruised reed He shall not break; He certainly did, you can’t go back and offer the blood of a lamb and a goat again. No way. The smoking flax, He quenched it. Why? Because He turned to the Gentiles.

Judgment unto victory, “Little Bride you never even did it.”

I’m asking you questions. You know what I’d like to do? Now I’m not nice, I admit it, but you tell me when I ever treated you wrong. I mean it; you tell me, come up and tell me before the congregation, I don’t give a rip. We’ll settle the whole thing.

You know what I’d like to do? But you’d get too scared to do it. I’d like to just call on several people here and let you answer these questions right tonight.

Now I’ve got confidence you can do it or my God where have you been sitting for the last ten years? Eleven years, where have you been sitting for eleven solid years if not 1977?

Where have your heads and your hearts been? What you been looking at? The only reason I’ve preached this and I preach it the way I’m doing is because this tape goes out, it’s a special tape.

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Brother Branham used the Greek where necessary; we are not using the Greek to prove anything.

It is certainly true that in this Book there have been translations of words that have been used according to the English which were not really a hundred percent with the Greek.

And even when you change it a hundred percent with the Greek, there is still no way of you knowing it, if you believe that He’s already been here for two thousand years, and that’s the Presence, there’s nothing will ever convince you otherwise!

And if you’ve already been taught by the Church of Christ the devil heals, there’s nothing will ever change you!

Because Brother Branham said, and let this guy quote this, “You put your ear to the door jamb and an awl goes through it, and you’ll never change your mind again!”

“The Parousia doctrine is only another in a long line of false doctrines sent by Satan.” Then the devil wrote the book. “Historically Satan has voiced it upon unwitting people, his own doctrinal substitutes, prior to God sending His true revelation.”

And you know what his revelation is about our message that we believe we got from Brother Branham? Is that we teach this is the second coming.

That man is a liar, and those who informed him are liars, and everybody else that says that are liars, because I’ve got nine hundred tapes and out of those nine hundred tapes you will find at least six hundred tapes of an hour and a half apiece, time after time, I talk of the Presence, the Appearing, but not one time do I call it the second coming!

I say with Brother Branham, if a man came here with his hands wounded, and even his scars upon his brow, I’d say, “Get thee hence, Satan.” Because it’s a spirit. Spirit doesn’t have wounds.

That’s his book. That’s his book. That’s a pretty sad commentary. Pretty sad commentary on the Word of God.

Especially Brother Branham said, “You’re looking at me aren’t you?”

The same man could say, “If God told me to go and raise Abraham Lincoln or George Washington from the dead, tomorrow morning I’d go there and challenge the armies of the earth to shoot me down if I couldn’t do it.”

The same man said, “My ministry is to declare that He is here!”

And a genuine healing revival has a new message, what is the new message about the Holy Ghost in you and God everywhere?

He said, “Just think how wonderful, the same Pillar of Fire that gave the Word to Paul is here revealing it!”

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Let’s get this flat. Paul was not at Pentecost. The Word of God did not come at Pentecost.

That was the baptism with the Holy Ghost laying a foundation so that the Gentile church could be built upon a revelation that Paul himself would give, and he delineated the Lord’s Supper a hundred percent, and nobody told it to him. God did. And he wrote it down perfectly.

Because he said, “I received of the Lord what I’m going to tell you about.”

Peter never told him, but Peter corroborated, because he went up and he said, “I wonder if this is a hundred percent right? Is this true? I’ll ask the men that were around him.”

So he asked them. Peter said, “Yep.” He said, “You’re right.” Peter turned around and said, “There’s many hard things the Apostle Paul said, you can wrest to your own destruction.”

They think we’ve done this, with what we call the Parousia, which is merely the Presence. And if He’s here, then He’s present. And I ask the question: Who’s here?

Well he said, “The same one that brought the Word to Paul is here revealing it.” He said, “That one that was in the human body of Jesus, in the flesh, did for Israel what He’s doing here now in the form of the Holy Spirit.”

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You tell me that was done any other generation but this generation? You tell me that was done sixty years ago? Don’t be ridiculous. I was through the Pentecostal age. I’m seventy-seven years old.

I was a kid when it broke, broke in 1906, but I was a kid when it began to flourish, in the twenties.

No, brother/sister, don’t get confused by people writing some little book and sending it over to Korea. This man can’t believe that this is White Throne.

You say, “Well Brother Vayle, you’re such a mean type of a preacher, this is in French, and Spanish, and Greek, and Urueben, and Korean, and other languages.”

Well maybe he means that this day is the Scripture fulfilled in some of these things here, but it’s not that though, because he’s got all of these other things there.

You can’t put an old patch on a new garment or a new patch on an old garment.

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So it’s too bad, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles, that’s the way it goes.

I’ve got many Scripture written down here concerning appearing, coming, and things like that, but we’re not going to bother with it, because our task is to go to William Branham the prophet, and see what William Branham said, and then bring it right back to the Word of God, so that we know, not that we’re… It doesn’t say we’re not satisfied that Brother Branham preached the truth, that’s not the point.

The point is there are many people who need to go right back to the Bible to see that the doctrine is a hundred percent with the Word. And that’s exactly what it is.

And the truth is so much stranger than fiction. I’m afraid more people will believe fiction and believe the lie, the Bible said they will.

See, he didn’t say one thing about the Judge. How much does he know about the Parousia? No, somebody talked to him, and he got all carried away, and I’ve got to admit when I first heard of the Presence, I had grave doubts myself.

I thought it sounded too much like doing away with the second coming, and I’m afraid that some did exactly that.

Like one man believed it, and he said, “Well there’s no more foot washing, communion.”

Because you see, if you run with this message and do despot to the Spirit of grace that gave it, you’ll understand everything else in the wrong perception the same as you understand this wrong. Because one error leads to another.

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Brother Branham said, “Add a word, add, add, add. You can’t help it. Take a word, take, take, take, you can’t help it.” You’re going to compound your errors and compound your troubles, it can’t be otherwise.

But if you cannot understand Matthew 12, brother/sister, and really see the interpretation of God’s Word is God fulfilling it and manifesting it before you, there is something wrong with your understanding of what Brother Branham said, because he said, “God interprets His Word by manifesting it or fulfilling it.” And he stood right there and said, “Here I am.”

And no man could gainsay it, because he had ‘THUS SAITH THE LORD’. And that ‘THUS SAITH THE LORD’ was the Word of ‘THUS SAITH THE LORD’ fulfilled before the man opened his mouth. Identical to the Apostle Paul, identical to Moses, there isn’t any difference.

That’s as far as we’re going to go, because we don’t have to go any further. I’m sorry for people who don’t understand this.

There’s a certain church not too far from here, a certain woman I know her and I know her husband, she went a few days ago to another certain woman that I know, and she said, “Lee Vayle’s in false doctrine.” Yet her own preacher’s supposed to preach what we’re preaching.

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Now you got your choice in a certain place in Ohio, where you got a preacher, he’s a preacher, another guy leading in the church that’s in adultery, they’ll all end up spiritual adultery, can’t help it, because you can’t take away from this Word, I don’t care who you are.

Bluster and talk all you want, you bring everything Brother Branham ever said, we’ve got the computer right now, let’s get the computers out. You’re not going to prove I’ve said one thing off of this Word, and what Brother Branham said.

The same time you’re not going to have those people going above, if they do start to believe, they’ll start saying, “Okay, Lee Vayle was right, but the point is he’s terrible spirit.”

How in the world can I have the mechanics right and have a terrible spirit? Especially now since the guy that said it is gone into the female portion of the Holy Ghost coming at Pentecost, I never heard of a woman making a man pregnant yet.

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Let me ask you a question.

Did God or did He not call their name Adam? Did He not look at both of them as one? Where does the life come from? The man.

Then Eve’s life is actually male, the same as the male, but she has organs of reproduction the same as the man does, for the purpose of reproduction.

Why does the Bible say in the resurrection, “Neither male nor female.” Reproduction. You don’t marry and give in marriage, and marriage is for reproduction.

Why did Brother Branham say, “You’re father wanted to have fellowship with you, but he couldn’t until through holy matrimony and the sacred bedding grounds of mother you were brought forth.”

And he said, “You’re mother’s part of your father and you’re part of your father, that makes you all one.” Hermaphrodites?

Come on, show me one place where Brother Branham mentioned female spirit, he mentioned a feminish spirit that was separated. Where was it put? Into a female body.

The funniest thing is every man wants a woman to think like a man but not to act like a man. Hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, oh brother.

Now the women want to act like men, chew tobacco, wear slacks, cuss like a trooper, initiate acts.

The beasts in Canada where there are certain poisons, don’t know their sex anymore, they’re bisexual or something, they’re like hermaphrodites.

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What do you think is happening to this generation? They want it so there’s neither male nor female.

Well they say, “Little girls simply just got to play with dolls because dolls are forced on them, and little boys got hammers and saws because hammers and saws are forced on them.”

Then how come little girls voices don’t change like little boys voices change? Well, you just got to tell them not to do it.

If Brother Branham said, “Why don’t you give the baby a little bell, stop yelling and screaming in my ears little idiot, here’s a bell.”

Look it, wake up to the fact brother/sister, eight people went over in the flood and one person made a rapture. But I want you to know one thing, in His Name shall the Gentile’s trust, and all of this is in His Name.

Now if I’m wrong and you believe me, I will answer for you, but you’re dead the same as I am. And if I am right, and I know jolly well I am, there’s no problem. No problem at all.

The Lord Himself shall descend with a Shout, the voice of the archangel, trump of God, and Brother Branham said, “Jesus does all three in descending,” and Who is Jesus? The same One that met Paul, “I am Jehovah.”

And He comes with a Message. And the Message is church order. And what is church order? Paul tells you in 2 Thessalonians 7-10. And Paul tells a secret in Ephesians 1:17-23.

And James told us the Judge is at the door. And John said, “I knock at the door.” Who’s knocking? The Judge! What’s He doing? Separating chaff and wheat!

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Brother/sister, listen to me. This Message of Brother Branham’s is a hundred percent Word. And because somebody doesn’t find it, and he wants to shoot his face off, and write articles, that’s his business, not mine, I don’t care what he does.

How big a church or anything else he’s got. But if anybody thinks they can intimidate me, they’re entirely wrong. Let’s have it out, let’s get the computers.

Because I want to tell you He’s here in a way He wasn’t here for two thousand years! I don’t know what they’re doing in that church, speaking in tongues or anything else, that’s their business.

All right. May sound like a kind of fighting message, but the point is this, I just preach it as I see it. He preaches as he sees it.

But it gives me a good… if the man wanted to know about what’s going on, is this a false doctrine? No, but here’s thousands will say it is.

But like the man said, “How do you know what the guy teaches?”

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Like the guy that challenged Joe in Hungary. The guy didn’t even know the quote, but he took my quote, and said, “Lee Vayle’s in error. He said so and so.”

And Joe said, “Well, then the prophet’s wrong, because he just quoted the prophet.”

But the same guy came with a little group of people and he said, “What are you praying for? You don’t need to pray, the prophet is here.” Meaning him.

Did I ever tell you not to pray? There’s a difference. You pin something on me, let’s see if it sticks. Could you know, my temper, yes, I’m short tempered, I can short fuse. That’s pretty well where it ends, of course that could end in a lot of things.

You know the old saying, “Whom the gods at first destroy they first make angry.” I’m not angry at this, and not particularly upset either, the point is I just want you to know this kind of stuff goes out.

And some of the things I say here I can tell you right now there ought to be at least fifteen men in this congregation, fifteen minimum, and another ten women, who could answer every one of these points.

And if you’re sitting here tonight and you feel you can’t, you’d better get your Friday night meetings going again and go over all these points.

You’d better get to know what’s going on. Because you ain’t going to get to heaven by Lee Vayle, any more than Lee Vayle gets to heaven by William Branham; William Branham gets to heaven by himself. There’s a Bride being chosen at the end time.

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Let me read about it? I’ve read it hundreds and hundreds of times.

Ephesians 1:17-20

(17) The God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him[self]:

(18) The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, [and then,]

(19) What is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

(20) Which he wrought in Christ,

Tells you right there, something’s going to happen before the Rapture. There’s going to be a revelation.

And if the revelation is just before the resurrection and Rapture, then it’s got to be the Shout, and I ask you Who’s doing it? God.

The same Jesus Jehovah that left the body and went back to the Pillar of Fire came right down to William Branham.

“Oh,” they say, “blasphemy, that’s a man.” Well, you have it your way and God will have it His, don’t worry.

All right, let’s pray.

Heavenly Father, we want to thank You again for the truth that You bring us by the prophet, and we know Lord everything he said has got to be here in the Word somewhere, we don’t pretend Lord that we would find it without Your help, we might not even find it at all, because You might not want to show us these things.

But we realize Lord in this last day that every single thing we need is here to put us in the Rapture, because Brother Branham said so. And he said all the mysteries were made known.

Of course we know Lord he said that the Seventh Seal was left out of Matthew 24, with just six seals, which was the coming of the Lord.

And we know that’s true, because he said Revelation 7, the Seventh Seal was Revelation 10:1-7. And that just brought us to the place when the Bride would be actually caught up, but the conditions were already laid down.

So Father we leave it in Your hands tonight, and pass on now, because it could all devolve and it’s just a matter of arguing, who needs an argument, we want reality and life.

We ask Your mercy in Jesus’ Name for Your glory. Amen.

[Brother Vayle continues with the Communion Service.]

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