Questions and Answers #03

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Shall we pray.

Heavenly Father we thank You for Your Presence, and Lord You said if we asked anything in Your Name You would do it for us, and we’re just asking You Lord to fulfill Your Word by helping us to have faith in You tonight, that that Word might be fulfilled in us, which is to receive the true instruction of the Word of God by the Holy Spirit.

Touching our bodies, giving us strength, and helping us in all measure that’s necessary, that Your Name might be glorified through this Word, which we know as Brother Branham said, brings the absolute fullness of the Holy Spirit to the stature of a perfect man, piling Word upon Word, while we learn to get out of the way, and let that light be released in us.

We give You glory, hopefully, in the Name of Jesus Christ our Savior. Amen.

You may be seated.

Now, this is number three, I suppose, on the series, which we’re starting on Questions and Answers, and we took a couple of questions, the first of which was “How can you tell or can you tell if a man is truly the five-fold ministry?”

And the question of course came really more direct to me, which I don’t know that I handled exactly right to get the emphasis, how could I tell as a person if someone is a true five-fold minister, and I can’t.

If you came to me and said, “Brother Vayle, I’d like you to talk with me and tell me if I’m a five-fold minister,” all I could do for you would be to simply talk with you concerning what a five-fold minister is.

And especially as Brother Branham said, “If you have a call, you don’t want to answer it, you want to get out of it.”

It’s the person that wants to be a minister is usually a deacon or an elder, because he wants it. And when he desires that position he desires a very wonderful position, and his character, even as Brother Branham said, must be even above that as a minister.

Now you say, “Brother Vayle how can that be?” Well I’m glad you asked the question.

Because I can tell you. David was the prophet king type of the Lord Jesus Christ, and he was the flatfoot out and out terrible person, within himself. He didn’t ask for it.

He was anointed for it, and he had to do it. And he had a lot of capabilities because he had it from God. But he superseded the capabilities of God by yielding to the flesh.

Contrary to the command, he coveted another man’s wife; he had four hundred women out there – my God, what was in that man? Then he not only coveted, he committed adultery. Why would he do that?

Let’s face it; now you men are men, you women are women. Now you tell me why would he do it? The next thing he killed the husband.

Now tell me that man had character? There are men in the nations had far superior character. When it comes to what you’re looking at.

Now I could talk to a person and say, “Well, so-and-so and so-and-so,” but I could never tell if a man really was part of a five-fold ministry, that’s between him and God.

If a man says he has a part, I say, “Fine, I believe you.” Because if I didn’t, then I got to know how God’s leading me.

So that’s really what I want to put across, of course, if you really want to know who’s in the five-fold ministry, you just go to the Book of Revelation, the First Church Age, they came along and they were false apostles. How do you know?

They weren’t saying what Paul said. Simple as ABC. And then remember on top of that they’re not only talking about what Paul said, as you know giving forth the truth of what Paul said, they had to have a revelation.

Oh, by the way, I told you how that Gnosticism is in the land didn’t I? Well, as Brother Joe White told me the other day, other night he was on the Internet.

And this is going to teach you a lesson: get off the Internet, unless you want just to do it for fun. I’ve been telling you what’s out there all the time.

And so the fellow said to Joe, “Oh,” he said, “We don’t really listen to Brother Branham anymore. We’re way beyond it.”

I said, “My God, Joe, that was done sixty years ago with the Latter Rain bunch. They said, “We don’t need the Bible.””

That’s the same junk they pulled on Brother Branham, and this woman talking, “Yap, yap, yap, yap, yap.”

“Woman, shut-up and sit down.”

They said, “Brother Branham, she had fresh manna.”

From hell! Wisdom from above and wisdom from below, my brother/sister, are two different things, but they can manifest beautifully.

So I don’t know the first thing about who’s in the five-fold ministry, or anything else, my God, I got to take care of myself, and if I’m helping you, good enough, if I’m not, forget it.

Okay, next question was we were dealing with the question — not so much a question, a statement. Brother Branham said that Eve should have borne Christ.

Now I took you on the principle which I knew best at that time, from Alpha to Omega, that sowing the seed must bring forth a hundred percent what is in that seed.

So therefore if I find something planted in the Book of Genesis, and I say, “Just a minute that’s oats.”

Now you follow what I’m saying, kind of this is allegorical. Just to illustrate. That’s oats. But when I get to the Book of Revelation, I find its wheat. Then it wasn’t oats! It was wheat! Okay.

Jesus’ parable. A man who had talent, brains, a good field, money, servants, the whole bit, he went out and he sowed good grain.

A few days later the grain came up, and the people came, “Oh master, I don’t understand it. This is terrible! You planted good seed out there, the field is full of tares!”

And remember the tare and the wheat in the first age look identical. I know that for a fact like, you know, in the States as well as Canada, they got wild oats.

Wild oats, oh man, it’s a little shorter than the real McCoy, but it’s beautiful, it’s green, it looks full, it’s great… phttt. Nothing to it. It’s wild; it looks like it.

So what did the man said that owned the place? “Oh,” he said, “come on, don’t rip it up, that’s your idea. Don’t rip anything up. Let it grow to the harvest. Then the seed is separated.” See?

And that’s what we’re looking at in this Word when I took Genesis to Revelation to show you how we knew that that seed was Christ.

Now tonight I’m going to approach it from a different manner, and when my conclusion comes by reading a simple verse, we’ll begin to wonder why everybody didn’t see what Brother Branham taught. I hope.

Now I’m not going to be perfect… the board is here because I’ll maybe need it for just a couple little things, I don’t know that I’m really going to need it, but just in case I do, I want to have it handy.

So, okay, you just bear with me now as I read my notes, because I’m going to be very careful, and to be honest with you, after I got through writing my notes, I realized there are many things that have been coming into my mind that were actually better than my notes, but I didn’t take time to revise my notes, so I’m trusting for what I put in my notes that I sat back in the room there, that I’ll be helped by the Holy Spirit to begin to show you every single thing that’s in my mind, as we trace this Word of God, to show you that Eve actually, actually her seed, in the definitive form of how we trace through the Bible.

So hopefully, and remember this is Lee Vayle talking, because I never talked to Brother Branham, but I have confidence that he who told me to do the Seals the way I’d done the Church Ages, in spite of the fact that I said, “Brother Branham I cannot do it, and I don’t know that I will do it.”

He said, “Brother Vayle, you can do it, and you will do it.” In other words, if time went on and all, I insisted I would have some form of correction ?within me? Said, “You don’t need me.” That was the idea. That I was supposed to do that.

Now the thing is this, any command that a prophet gives that comes from God, or any commandment God gives any prophet is God’s enablement’s. So I trust that I’m able to show you from scripture.

Now you won’t be led astray on the very grounds that you know that Brother Branham said it; I’m just trying to give you an understanding that I have… many times things simply come to me. I don’t ask for it, I never beg, I never borrow anymore; I learned my lesson many years ago.

And when I needed help, God gave me. So I don’t want to make any mistakes. So let’s… you listen as I read and I’ll try to show you as carefully as I can what I’m into.

So to do it we go back to Genesis, the seed chapter, and it’s chapter one, and we’ll get through this question, we’re going to close as early as we can, because I don’t know if I’ll be here tomorrow or not. I just can’t tell you how it will be.

But if I am here tomorrow, and it’s possible I will, we’ll just take another question or so, I don’t want to… I just got to be honest with you, I’m just plumb worn out, that’s all.

Years, up until this time, when my voice was bad and my throat, I could preach enough to get the pips off it, now, I even talk to people on the phone a bit, I’m worn out. I simply can’t do it.

So I’m going to do my best if I don’t hack all night, by the grace of God I trust we won’t, He gives us strength, we’ll just read this scripture and help you reading my notes, and then show you what we have in mind here as perfectly as we can.

Genesis 1:26-28, which you know are very favorite verses of mine.

Now when you talk about creeping things, please just don’t thing that’s those little serpents and things running around.

That’s going to be ants, that’s going to be anything that creeps and crawls, that’s going to be bacteria, everything in the world man has complete control over.

There’s nothing here that man was not given to have power and dominion over, complete authority.

Now number one, the word ‘fruitful’ means ‘bear’, ‘bring forth fruit’, ‘be or cause to be’, or ‘make fruit’. The word means ‘fruitful’, it also means to ‘grow’ and ‘increase’. The word ‘fruit’ now means literally or figuratively ‘a bough’, and it means ‘a reward’.

So therefore when you’re talking of fruit, you’re talking of a substance, which comes forth, even as the word ‘reward’ means today ‘to earn’. So something must be done in order to bring this forth. And it is all here in scripture that it can be brought forth.

Now the word ‘multiply’, the principle root means ‘to increase’. Now listen carefully to the words. First of all the word ‘fruit’, literally or figuratively, it is ‘a bough’.

So that means there’s something there that you have to have, and to have fruitful to bring forth this thing. And you see your trees; they have boughs, and on those boughs comes a developed thing which you call a fruit.

Now the principle root of ‘multiply’ means ‘increase’. Now watch. ‘Abundance’, ‘be in authority’, ‘to bring up’, ‘to continue’, to enlarge’, ‘to excel’, it means ‘exceedingly’, ‘be full of’, ‘be or make great, or even greater or do greatly’, ‘grow up’, ‘heap up’, ‘increase’, ‘be or give or have more in number’, ‘multiply’, ‘nourish’, it means ‘plenty’, it means ‘to store up’, it means ‘thoroughly’.

Now you heard the words. Now just start thinking with me as I go over my notes. Putting these two words together, ‘fruitful’ and ‘multiply’, there is actually no reason to believe that this is all about procreation and bringing untold numbers into the earth.

So there goes your Mormons. They got the doctrine polygamy to have 10, 15, or a 100 wives, to get them all pregnant, to bring all these souls in that God has up there ready to come down. How many do you think came down?

So look at this carefully now. Now listen with me, because I’m not through. On the contrary, we find multiplied birth as a result from the falling into sin. Genesis 3:16.

Now you can’t argue with me, because I’m telling you scripture.

You can see right here that procreation absolutely took a turn from the good to the bad, and there now becomes intense desire on the part of both parties, and there’ll be a lot of, lot of, lot of children don’t even belong there.

Now if you don’t think that’s right, why is there going to be a White Throne judgment and annihilation of literally billions?

So all right, these words cannot mean multiplied conception. Right? Even if I’m right, who cares, I don’t need your amen, are you getting what I’m saying?

Are you following what I’m saying as trying to teach you what this is all about? You look pretty glum, so get over it. If you can’t get it, raise your hands, and say, “Brother Vayle I still don’t get it.”

Now do me a favor, I won’t be with you long, so let’s get an understanding. And you’re going to find I’m right. I trust you’re quietness is just reverence for the Word of God, you’re nice people, okay.

Now, but to me these words express the potential, or what lies within the male and female that God brought forth. So that from what those intrinsic spiritual blueprints in those spiritual genes contained, there could come forth a race, a credit unto their God and Father, and manifest their potentials.

You follow me? You want it read again? How many want me to read it again? Come on, don’t be a… hey, listen, please don’t be a bunch of little… do you want me to read again so you really get it? Good, so at least some of you want it.

All right, for your sake then. You’ve got a lot of people around you who are really brilliant, you know. Am I too mean, John? I get their attention that way, don’t I? See, I’m an old school teacher. I’m mean as get out…

But to me these words, now let’s go again, ‘fruit’, literally or figuratively ‘bough’, b-o-u-g-h, a reward. I’m going to get something.

Fruitful: ‘bear’, ‘bring forth fruit’, ‘to be or cause to be or make fruitful’, ‘grow’ and ‘increase’. Increase: ‘abundance’, ‘be in authority’, ‘to bring up’, ‘to continue’, ‘enlarge’, ‘excel’, ‘exceeding’. Okay.

These two words therefore have nothing in my books in the original concept in the Garden of Eden, previous even to it, before they were put in flesh, these two words mean, as I can read from the original, all the expressions in the roots thereof, they express the potential, or what lies within the male and female that God Himself brought forth, so that from what those intrinsic spiritual blueprints… that’s everything in there, everything I read… in the spiritual genes, those blueprints in there, could come forth in their full potential under God.

Now stop and think. I’m talking in terms of the spiritual, not the physical. Look at our lives, look at the New Testament, study the words of Paul, study the words of William Branham, and you can see I’m telling you a hundred percent what William Branham taught in the stature of a man that’s become mature, in the full stature.

Where you grow right up into Christ, with a complete Headship, and if you can show me for one second that I am off with these words, I’ll get out of this pulpit and never return. Now go back to the sermons of William Branham.

And we’re not talking about legalism; we’re talking about learning to get out of the way. Now we’ll hit all this as we go down the road.

In other words, the fullness of a predestination. Thank God we have the millennium ahead of us for further sanctification down the road.

Now you will notice that all definitions are positive, but all could be easily turned negative. Come on, what is a lie, but a truth that was there in the first place, turned around? What is death? Life gone to a negative.

Every single thing in there, you will notice that all definitions are positive, but all could be easily turned negative, though at that time of pronounced blessing there was no negativity suggested. Then came in Genesis 2:16, when Adam and Eve were two spirits in one flesh.

And in,

And Adam almost got to one thousand years, but he died, what, about nine hundred and thirty years old? And Eve likely died a whole lot sooner. Methuselah came to be the old… what about nine hundred and sixty, or something like that? Nobody got to the thousand.

In other words, the processes have set in, appointed unto man once to die, after that the judgment. So instantly, we see that the flesh could be dangerous, though necessary.

And this is what I was going to tell you, what Brother Branham said. We were put here in the flesh to be tested. So the flesh is very, very dangerous. Very dangerous. Thank God we have the Holy Spirit to help us through.

Now with that I want to read,

And then preceding that, he says over here in,

Now actually we find here the fulfillment in chapter 2 what was said while he was in the spirit form, in 29, warning him what lay ahead.

So therefore, before this person Adam ever was put into the flesh, where he could be tempted, he knew a great deal of things, which this parallels with Jesus Christ, Who alone being a theophonic form… now Adam was not in a theophonic form, let’s get that flat. He left that, not having any knowledge.

But Jesus in His theophonic form, Word body, Spirit body, as Brother Branham called it, He knew, He was all ready fully aware of every single thing, and He remembered when He came to earth.

Now Adam here was all ready warned ahead of time, he all ready knew in the spirit form body what was ahead of him, and what lay here, what was.

Then in the body he was given complete information, because God did not leave him without all those things that were completely necessary for him to have in that life.

Now look at it as the same thing we have right today, we have the full warning of the complete Word of God right here before us, and we have our bodies, knowing we can be tempted, but everything is outlined here before us perfectly.

So no one has an excuse. That’s what the Bible teaches us.

Now I want to stress particularly in the 29th verse where it says here not only concerning the herb, but it says, “In every tree in the earth, which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed.”

So the stressing here is I’m looking at a principle, and so here’s where I’m going to try to take you. Now you got to watch from this point on where I want to take you. As a principle you are given every tree in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed.

Now here’s what I wanted the board for, because I want to copy down, and I can see this better than I can see the Bible here.

And so it says here, “You are…” I should have had somebody that can write nicely and rapidly do this, but it’s all right. I can read it, if you can’t, I’ll read it for you… “are given every tree in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed.”

Now the reason I write that is because I want you to understand exactly what I’m driving at. You are given every tree… now see this is, you are given every tree.

That’s the subject, that’s the object, the accusative case. Now which, in which is the fruit of a tree. See?

Now double underline this. Which is the fruit of the tree. See, I’m trying to get the emphasis here, because we’re going in a certain direction. Yielding seed.

So you are given every tree. But there’s a definition there. In which is the fruit of a tree, yielding seed. So you have the fruit of a tree, yielding seed.

So you’re looking at a tree then that bears fruit. It bears it on the bough. Now that tree has within itself life, which is what we’re looking at, to reproduce more life. So it comes up, and it comes through the bough, comes out in the fruit, and its yielding seed.

And this is where you get your law of your sowing and your reaping. So therefore you have a seed. Now that’s what we’re looking at here, so let’s get my notes now, and see we follow through.

So first of all you are given every tree. A definition in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed. See? How you read things and put it together makes it a whole lot different from what just casual reading is. Because you’ve got to get into a principle.

And this where I have found many times, not many times, but sometimes, I disagree with how Brother Branham’s sermons come out. Because it’s a matter of punctuation. It’s a matter of what you’re seeing.

So listen now.

Number one: here is an apple tree.

Number two: on it hangs fruit, which is an apple.

Three: in the apple lies at least one seed.

Four: the seed in that apple continues the power of reproducing itself.

See? Okay. Bear, bring forth fruit, be, cause to be, make fruitful, grow, increase. Understand now? So that is what you are looking at. Okay.

The seed covering, which is called an aril, a-r-i-l, many times, the seed covering, now we’re talking of the whole thing now, of that life within there, because you know you don’t have any good time with a corpse, and you wouldn’t be any good as a corpse.

We’re just not talking now of anything, we’re talking now of the actual truth of growth, life, production, where are we at. Okay.

The seed covering, and the pulp, and the enzymes, and the minerals, and the vitamins, any and everything, which is you call synergistic, which work together, complementary, and are necessary, pulp, anything else you want to call it, are therefore the invisible life that keeps coming forth by a process set forth by God, that is simply called sowing, caring, and reaping.

As Brother Branham said, “If you take the properly germitized seed, and put it in a properly fertilized earth, all it requires is the sun and rain.”

Now that’s a very simple statement, and it’s very true, but it’s actually much more complicated, and yet it’s even simpler than what Brother Branham said it.

The production of what you want from the blueprint, which is spiritual, lying in the genes within there, now must have something to work with in order to bring forth what is in the blueprint.

Now that becomes a true logos! We just stop right there. That becomes a true logos.

That’s why you must never confuse Brother Branham’s statements of Jesus being the Logos, and then turning around and saying he wasn’t! Do you follow?

The genes, the spirituality, the spiritual thing, containing the spiritual genes, that which is invisible, but is living, has within it a complete pattern.

Now then, if that did not bring forth what is in the complete pattern, that thing, then it’s not a logos! Did I lose you? Shouldn’t by now.

That’s why Brother Branham could say in John 1:1, “In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God, and that Word is Logos, if you make that Jesus, you got three gods,” yet turn around and absolutely say, “when that light came forth, that’s Logos.”

Do you follow me? Now I’ve never preached this clearer in my life. And I never grasped it till this moment. To be honest with you, so don’t feel bad. I’m supposed to be, you know, able to listen, to do a few things, but I really can’t.

Okay, number six: all manifestation of life, which is in itself invisible, life which is invisible, see, needs some material to identify it.

The manifestation by identifiable material, and shape, and color, and taste, etcetera, cetera, cetera, gives us a way to categorize all life forms and can know what is coming forth. In the event we cannot identify a seed, we simply plant it. See?

What if you couldn’t tell Nyjer from thistle? Nyjer’s what you get from India, and we call it thistle seed, and give it to our little friends, the canaries, don’t we? Wild canaries, finches. It’s not thistle seed. It’s Nyjer.

And yet I suppose it’s a thistle seed of some kind, but you know, you identify it. Now, now I’ll try to bring everything together, just follow me and listen as though you’re, you know, hearing something that’s, you know, available, and all right. See, I know where I’m going.

We go to Deuteronomy 7. Now remember the subject is Eve should have borne Christ.

So and all right now, we’re looking at this thing here, and we’re looking at fruit, and we find here a fruit that’s in the womb.

Now just keep in mind what I read back here about the tree, because we’re talking about production, and we’re going to get it down to humanity here, and where we get it back to where we want to go.

Here we see that children are a called fruit that is produced through the womb. Now when we’re talking about fruit and these things, the womb is the earth or nourisher of what is in the womb.

So the womb and earth can be called the same thing, and they’re nourishers of what lies there. But that’s all. That’s what it is. And what is in the womb is an egg and a sperm.

At harvest time a child comes forth and due to a genetic pattern you can tell exactly who the father is, and if the baby is a foundling, even the mother can be identified. Okay?

Let’s go to the New Testament. Now remember our subject is Eve, and the seed.

In,

You say, “Well you read it wrong.” No, I didn’t read it wrong, I just read it fruit. Okay, what fruit? Okay, a son.

Okay, and we go to 39, starting:

Brother Branham said, when Mary got there, the Holy Ghost gave John the Baptist, which was dead in the mother’s womb, life.

And it was the Holy Ghost life, and you can tell that, because he had the Holy Ghost from his mother’s womb. Just a double dose as it were. Now the babe leaped in the womb.

So now we’re looking now at the tree, we’re looking at seed, we’re looking at fruit, we’re looking at the whole process in nature, and remember, everything that God does, you can see a replication in nature, you can see something there.

And you’ll find that Brother Branham’s language is right down the line with the scripture here. And I try to get this the best I can for you.

So all right. Now with that we see Genesis 38:6-9. Just to bring these things together. All right.

Well when you talk about male sperm, and the ejaculate, if that wasn’t his, whose was it? It certainly wasn’t some visionary thing, or some spirit come into the room, this is real sexual intercourse for procreation.

So now you’ve got seed in the child identified. The child would not be his, I’ve explained that to you before, how that happens. It was really as simple as ABC.

Because you come from a certain line, it doesn’t matter exactly who you are, there’s trillions of sperm there, over a period of time, every one identified by Almighty God. You coming from the same father, your brother would have the same.

And so therefore within your male ejaculate, and his would be identical coming on down, but it wouldn’t be identical as per person, but that lifeline coming down, the sperm that you could carry could be your brother’s. You could both be carrying the same.

In other words, from the same source. And you can understand that very easily on the very grounds that every male no doubt carries two seeds, or they could, one of Adam, one of serpent.

So you can see right here in God’s program, because this was a selected race of people, positively Onan could have brought forth children unto his brother. Sounds strange, doesn’t it? Phttt. Don’t be ridiculous; it’s easy as ABC.

Putting this altogether we recall Brother Branham called woman a fruit tree. And also she is a garden. According to the Songs of Solomon. And Paul calls us the agronomy, or the agriculture of God; that goes for all of us.

She is the one and only one that bears the fruit of the Adamic race and the serpent race, depending on which life is in the male donor sperm.

Eve was and is the mother of all living. See? Or the fruit bearer of two mammals. Just quite simple.

Now what we call sperm, both visible and invisible, because it is actually, you have visible, but then it’s the invisible.

That’s why if you took the sperm, that’s actually a logos, and then when you get the actual child born, that’s a complete logos. The work’s done, in that particular area.

So now what we call sperm is both visible and invisible, and what is visible does not always contain the invisible or life, and if it doesn’t the man is called sterile.

Now you got one right there. Should have been something, but it died. So it can’t reproduce itself. See?

That’s why you get under the third and fourth generation sexual sins, if you get syphilis, the child could be born blind, deformed, something, and by the first generation there can be no reproduction.

The body may have certain functions but that one would be an idiot, incapable of reproduction.

So I just wanted to bring that to your attention. The egg also, which is visible, may not receive sperm, and she’s called barren.

Because the fact of the matter is though the woman does not carry life essentially, for reproduction, and has the pulp there, yet if that pulp did not have the blood there, and that which is necessary to bring about the life, it would be nothing.

So when people use the term concerning only the male, you know you’d have to be a little bit out of touch with reality, to feel that the woman contributed nothing, or how come she’s got blue eyes, the husband’s got brown eyes, and before it’s over they’re like us, one with the brown eyes, one with blue eyes, and one hazel. The woman contributes. We’ll touch this and show this more perfectly.

But put the correct and healthy sperm and egg together in a good womb, and the woman bears seed, which is fruit, and in that fruit is more seed to come forth, male and female, as we see in 1 Corinthians 11:8-12.

Now here’s what I want to get to here. And this will answer your question later on down the line another question. Are you with me or getting bored? I’m not losing you am I? I hope not.

All right, 8-12.

That settles it right there. Genesis. The woman is of the man, the man is not of the woman, period. That’s original principle, creation, and what we see set forth here.

Now what is this going to be? Some great thesis on the chauvinistic male where he is the head of the house, and he’s head of the woman, and the woman is merely dirt under his feet, and blah, blah, blah? Nah, no, no, no, no, he’s not talking about that at all.

He’s talking purely and simply of laws of procreation and living and those things which we are talking about even now.

So therefore, though the woman was made for the man, why was she made for the man? To reproduce himself. To bring on another Adam. See? Because that was given by God, the precept and the plan, of how this should be worked out.

And Brother Branham categorically stated that the spirit, male and female, was there for procreation. But remember, it wasn’t there just to multiply.

It was to bring forth children unto God who would show forth literally what you might say is the image of God, or the attributes of God, or the glory of God, or the greatness of God and his family. He wanted something of His lineage, because we are His lineage.

Unfortunately we have a bad deal with our flesh, but we are put in to be tempted, and now with the Holy Spirit it’s just the same as though we actually have everything under control, or do have under control, and can have, and should have, to be in this walk.

Now,

So what you’re looking at here is the fact that you cannot get away from the processes of reproduction, so that the woman does have a specific part, wherein she bears the fruit, she bears that seed, which is necessary in order to keep propagating, and bringing the life on the earth, and bringing the full commitment that God wanted. Okay.

Also notice now in Romans 9. I’m not sure I’ve got this perfectly the way I wanted it in the chronological sequence, but I’m going to use it again anyway.

Now, here’s what we’re looking at as I said before. The baby and seed become synonymous. Children and seed become synonymous.

Because the life of the male, with the life that the female got from the male, coming together, brings forth that invisible into a manifestation, which is a perfect logos, or a manifestation of that invisible life that was there that God wants. And He brings it forth.

Now again.

Now we’re differentiating now between the seed of God, and what is not the seed of God. You are right back to where Brother Branham brought out when I first didn’t understand serpent seed, when he talked to me about it.

Down there in the river one time. He was fishing; I wasn’t, because I’m no fisherman. He said, “Lee, what do you think about serpent seed?”

I said, “Well, what about it?” So he talked about Eve being seduced by the serpent. And somehow, I believe I’d heard of that before in a very vague manner of some description, I wasn’t impressed.

And I said, “Well, didn’t matter to me,” I said, “disobedience, it could be eat an apple, it could be throw, you know, a stone in the river when you shouldn’t, or any old thing, as long as an act of disobedience.”

“No,” he said, “but there’s got to be a seed.”

I never caught it. Not until later, when I realized that he was the infallible prophet, then I knew that serpent seed had to be it.

And when I accepted serpent seed, I could see exactly how predestination would be and why it must be! And why there wouldn’t be any permanent hell, there’d be an annihilation, although I did believe in annihilation. It began to come together.

Now it tells you right here. Isaac was the manifested life that God wanted; Ishmael was also a manifested life. And both of those women had fruit of the womb. And both of those women had seed.

And in that seed they reproduced men that could further reproduce with women. You can’t disqualify the woman.

You get rid of the woman; you got rid of the man. Get rid of the man, you might as well shoot the woman. She ain’t going to bear anyway.

Now where does homosexuality come in? See, the whole thing stinks. Women, two lesbians, they’ve been together. Now one’s going to get a male sperm donor, she can have a baby.

You know what they’d have done in the old days with her? They’d have burned her at the stake. Wouldn’t have even worried about a stake, just burned her.

Listen I’m not vengeful or mean, I’m just telling you what’s happening. This is so wrong it’s pitiful. And you got the results of what Eve did in that garden.

It went into… oh God, it went into every filthy thing under high heaven; you and I have a problem with the whole thing. See?

Now, with this we’re going to go to,

So now you’ve got sons, and this is what we’re talking about. Because this is what we are looking at. We’re looking at the life, which is produced by that which has that life, but a woman is necessary for the reproduction, the replication.

Do you follow me? Good.

Now in the light of the fact that Jesus born of the virgin Mary bruised Satan’s head, this seed of,

The fruit of her womb; the male child; the propagator, the continuator. Continuator? That’s a good word, I just made that up. Ha, ha, it would be nice if there was such a word, I don’t think there is, but there might be. He which continues. See?

Now, He was Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God, yet God said, “Eve’s seed.” So she did have it altogether before the fall to bear Jesus. She destroyed it, interrupted it all.

It is that simple, it would have been a virgin birth, or a spoken word birth. Now let me show you the simplicity, and let’s go into it again. Here,

Yet Brother Branham said, and the others all say categorically, the woman doesn’t have a seed. Yes she does if she gets it from somebody!

Now she got it from the serpent, then she got it from Adam, she should not have done it! And when it says her seed, she must have had it!

Or God could not have said, “You have a seed.”

Do you follow? Who bruised serpent’s, the devil’s head? Jesus.

Now I’ve taken a full hour to explain a very simple thing, which I could have said, “Look, let’s just look in the Bible and forget sowing and reaping. Let’s forget Alpha and Omega. Let’s just go here and read the plain truth.”

So Eve should have had him. Right? Because she was the mother of all living, and when Mary was born, the Virgin Mary, huh? She had to come down from Eve and from Adam. She was no serpent crocodile.

And Jesus came forth from her womb as a fruit, as a seed, and as Brother Branham said, “The seed burst and brought forth His life upon you and me to bring us back to God, to seal us in and bring us forth in the resurrection, because Jesus the Christ was the first fruit.”

He was the first fruit of God, He was there before us, we were in Him, we came down through the Adamic race, He is the first begotten from the dead, the first fruit that we’re going to come back with Him, and He’ll be the first One there, and we’ll be all around Him.

So you can see when Brother Branham said it, and I have never read under any consideration anybody who ever said what Brother Branham said, but here it is right as simple as ABC, He said she had it. And she blew it!

She never said, “Be it unto me according to Thy Word,” but a little lady named Mary! Way down there in Israel, she said, “Be it unto me according to Thy Word,” and right then the created sperm and egg was in her womb, and she brought forth that seed which is Christ. Right?

Well, if you like long explanations, you got it.

We had a question here. The question is: Brother Branham said, the people said, how did the serpent seed come over, over in the flood. He said, “Why in the ark. They came over by the women.”

Now the question is: is that right? Well, sure it’s right. I ask you a question now. The person is really asking that question, it’s really a very ridiculous question, because the fact of the matter is, why didn’t they also ask, well how did the righteous seed come over?

There wasn’t any seed that didn’t come over, except by the ark. And if Noah was the last perfect person living, his wives weren’t. Then by his… his wife, I beg your pardon. Then by his wife, three children were born… three males. And they were not genetically perfect anymore.

Now simply listen, you are dealing with two spiritual forces, two lives. One is of the devil and one is of God. And the one of the devil is by an animal called the beast. The serpent. And he impregnated Eve.

Now you’ve got from Cain then, the ability to impregnate any egg that comes down. So therefore he could take the daughters of Eve, and impregnate them, and what is the life in there? The life that is in there is from the male, which is from the serpent.

So now you’ve got the whole kit and caboodle messed up. That’s exactly why you have predestination. That’s how you’ve got a serpent seed, and God will condemn and destroy them. That’s why today you’ve got natural brute beasts!

Look at that kid in Kentucky, Maduka, killed those children. What about the one that’s in Tennessee, was it in Tennessee? He killed them down there.

What’s going on in Dayton? Dayton’s got one of the biggest murder rates in the world!

“Oh,” they say, “the reason we got it, is because we’re the only ones that report all the homicides, nobody else does.”

Oh come on Dayton, get off of it. I can take the history back when they started to be sleaze balls, and tell you why, why they’re sleaze balls right now.

Now listen, I’m a Canadian by birth. Hallelujah, I changed my… didn’t change my religion… oh, I guess I did, coming down here. I sure changed my citizenship. But I know a little bit of what goes on.

So that’s how it came over. Now let me show you. It’s right here, in 1 Corinthians, which I read. And it’s the 11th chapter, which I also read.

And it tells you right here:

Now I say, what about your homosexuals now? No longer they got an interest in Almighty God, and nothing. Now if they’re not natural brute beasts, well, it leaves me wondering, what in the world is a natural brute beast?

Well, I don’t think they’re even natural brute beasts, I think they’re so horribly unnatural I wouldn’t even give a beast that much downgrading. I go along with Brother Branham.

Now,

Now the beautiful part I’m looking at right here is: all things of God. So that everything coming forth, God is over it, and above all as God, but you’re going to have serpent seed, and you’re going to have the true seed, and it’s all coming forth through the male and the female.

And there were males and females on the ark, and that’s it, and that’s the way it is right now.

And you don’t know that the children you have, until down the road, or the judgment, whether they’re true sons of God, daughters of God, which is really children, because there’s neither male nor female in Christ, and if there’s neither male nor female in the body of Christ, there’s neither male nor female back there.

And procreation’s all over, that takes care of that. You can’t tell and I can’t tell. See?

Like you go around, you think love’s the answer, and Brother Branham said, “Well Christian Science show a hundred times more love than people called the Bride and all.”

Like I said about David. He’s an actual prophet king. Forbearer of Jesus Christ. David’s throne. Imagine that! Jesus, David’s throne. Whew. The throne’s been purified. The Empire’s been set up by God.

So there we are, that answers your question on that particular area, and so all right.

I’m going to close because I gave myself the privilege of quitting early tonight, and trust to get back tomorrow, we’ll see, I thank God for helping me so my throat didn’t get too bad, and I hope you’re not unhappy that you get…

In other words, nailing down everything when it comes to questions to show you every single thing in scripture running in continuity, and everything that Brother Branham said was THUS SAITH THE LORD, and we say everything that the prophet said, although embellishing upon it, as long as we stick exactly what he said, and take it right back to exactly what it said, the principle, we have no worry that we’re going to get off the Word for one single, solitary minute.

So all right, so let’s just bow our heads for a second before we have the Communion/Foot Washing Service.

Heavenly Father we want to thank You for the opportunity You’ve given us to come together Lord to discuss Your Word, and we just pray Lord that it will be blessed on the grounds that we have tried to bring forth exactly what is in Your Word, to see the truth of the Word as Brother Branham brought it forth, knowing as we’ve known for many years that no matter what subject we study, we can find it many places in the Word, as it were under almost many headings, but it’s all there in its marvelous way of bringing forth many, many facets.

And we thank You Lord that we finally realize that just the truth and the simplicity of Your Word, that You said, “Her seed,” absolutely the woman, that fruit tree, to have brought forth the Son of God, spoken word reality, and turned it down.

Coming forth four thousand years later, and now we look back, and we praise You for it, that we have this revelation as never before, two thousand years even after that.

So we just thank You for Your kindness and Your love and Your mercy, and pray Lord that in all things Your Name may be glorified, especially by a walk which we would certainly enjoy for Your honor and glory, Lord, not for any self-gratification, as though we said, “Look what we did,” or “look how we conducted ourselves,” or anything along that line, but for the glory of God.

Putting away those things for Your sake, that we should not have, acquiring to ourselves for Your sake Lord, those things that are already here, and putting them out and a practice of our lives, that men may know our temperance, our moderation, and those things which are of God.

So Father we just pray in the rest of the service You’ll bless in Communion and Foot Washing, and may we not be like those who were in Corinth, even in the time of Paul, who when they came together, went away the worst for having been together, but we go away Lord all the better for having been together.

And we believe that’s what Your Word does, because it’s a light to the pathway, it illuminates all that where we tread, Lord, where we know that every place our feet tread upon we can be victorious.

We commend ourselves to You tonight, in the Name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen.

[Brother Vayle continues with the Communion Service.]